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thank you

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welcome to this episode of The Secret of

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Skinwalker Ranch reviews season 4

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episode 8. there were some interesting

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people that came on the ranch and it was

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something that I was like there were

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some aspects to the show I'm like yeah

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this is great and other aspects thinking

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maybe they're building more anticipation

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for the upcoming episodes because we

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still have a handful more to go and

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Jimmy I placed a poll on YouTube asking

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people rate the last night's episode and

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62 percent said that they loved this

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episode well 35 said above average and

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no one has clicked on not the best or

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didn't like this episode so overall

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people that are watching this I only

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have a 19

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um votes right now are saying that they

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decently liked this episode if not loved

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this episode but what about yourself

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yeah I that I thought it was great yeah

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yeah I'll go on the record right now I

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thought it was a great episode

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um so we'll we can start there I don't

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know where you want to start as cool

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scene Pete Kelsey by the way you know I

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had him on the show last week and then

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seeing him with his with his

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um desert desert uh garban I can imagine

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how hot and and gnarly it is up there

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during the summer but but anyway it was

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great to see Pete Kelsey on the show

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um I don't know where you want to start

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but can I do a spoiler because nothing

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happened can I do a spoiler well uh this

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whole show is gonna be filled with

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spoilers so go ahead and this is Pete

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Kelsey on his get up as check out my man

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um so the episode starts out with

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um well I don't but at the very

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beginning uh they're gonna drill they're

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gonna drill on the top of the Mesa right

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and so uh let's get going and I'm like

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finally here we go drilling on the top

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of the Mesa okay how far can you drill

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how much can you draw a little about a

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foot an hour or how far are you gonna go

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You're Gonna Go 44 we're going to tap

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into the ground

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oh man here we go

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and that was it that was it that

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was it was an excellent excellent

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episode everybody go and watch it it was

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an excellent episode but for me I've

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been talking about this for weeks now

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um and I thought here so we now know

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though that they are drilling at the top

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of the Mesa so uh what's gonna happen

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from there don't know uh you're not

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gonna find out in this episode but there

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was a lot there was a lot of uh there's

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a lot of a lot of info a lot of info

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okay so I'll hand it over to you where

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do you want to start there were a

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handful of open projects so they started

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and we haven't seen the conclusions we

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haven't seen the results of of many of

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those things just yet so it really feels

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like we are a part of the journey that

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when they didn't have the answers

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neither do we but we did hear about

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actually a new teammate on skin wall on

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the team of Skinwalker Ranch and that is

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Joe Loeb right here he's been working

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security alongside dragon and Caleb for

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a few years as I had mentioned in the

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show and he's also part of a drilling

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company so they hired him to get a drill

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on top of the Mesa and to drill inward

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now that was talked about at near the

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beginning of the episode and then and

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then um there was a little like clip

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near the mid to end section where they

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actually began drilling but let's start

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there because what I found interesting

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here is that Travis asked how long will

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it take you to get 40 feet deep because

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we think that there is a structure there

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and Joe kind of looks at him and says

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well it's about a foot an hour so if you

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if you do the math that's gonna be 40

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hours so that will take several days to

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go ahead and drill to the depth that the

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team wants him to but yet we don't know

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what's inside of the Mesa if they're

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going to reach that object what they're

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going to do afterward if they'll place a

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camera that would be so genius so

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hopefully within the next episode we

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will get those answers but there was

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definitely a level of anticipation when

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it came to this experiment that so many

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people wanted to see at the very

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beginning really yeah yeah I agree with

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all of that

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um it better be next week though I'm

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going to write Brandon an email that

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he's not going to want to read if I

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don't get my if I don't get my top of

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the Mesa drilling results

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um now it's okay so there were a couple

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of things I want to get I want to get

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straight to Pete Kelsey because this was

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this is actually a pretty big deal

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and Pete is a very smart guy he is so

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they they bring Pete in uh to do uh some

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more topographical measurements of the

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Mesa section

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so and they they're talking about

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vegetation and and what could grow and

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how it grows and what grows where and

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and is there certain things affecting

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um they they they just came off of the

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Jay Stratton experiment and uh you know

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they took Jay they use Jay's a guinea

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pig and they put him in a vehicle with a

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and that was a lot was that last week or

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two weeks ago it was last week last week

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and so they bring in Pete

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um and they're interested obviously

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around Homestead two and the drilling

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site and this area and where the shadow

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tree and the moon and and and and so

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forth so this general area so they bring

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in P Kelsey and he does his measurements

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and then they go back and and they they

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Pete goes through the results

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and I've got to say that it's different

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from other shows

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we've got results you know Pete Kelsey

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brought the goods Pete Kelsey

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uh revealed now

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um I'm gonna talk about one thing and

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big because it was such a major part

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um I want to talk about this very good

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this is live by the way Christina and I

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have not talked about the show today you

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know what Christina and I talked about

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but we didn't talk about the show

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um this area blow this up blow up the

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three circles

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so uh Pete found this now this is

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right and then to the west to the left

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there are these three Circle areas these

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anomalies and now which appeared to be

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you know pretty pretty circular right

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um circles happen in nature

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heard of the Earth right okay so the

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circles happen in nature it's not an a

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natural formation but having these three

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uh this this area it's five over five

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themselves now that looks strange but

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where everything went wonky and the GPS

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underground put J strand's location you

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connected I don't know it's a certainly

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a strange coincidence if it's not

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connected but uh this is part of a

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Pete's information now let's go I'll

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hand it back to you and tell us about

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the other area that Pete discovered and

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I I found this to be really incredible I

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will and Brian thank you so much he

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looks like Lawrence of the Mesa I was

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going to say Lawrence of Arabia Lawrence

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of the Mesa is awesome Brian worth every

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penny thank you thank you for that that

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was awesome so he he was using a

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multi-spectral analyzer slash camera to

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look at the discoloration of the um of

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the grass so the light colors is healthy

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grass healthier grass while the dark

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colors is kind of dead grass he

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mentioned that archaeologists use this

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type of technology to look for ancient

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ruins and they've used texts such as

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this to actually find like Roman ruins

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uh in a wheat field which was really

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really cool so he wanted to use that

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exact same thing on Skinwalker Ranch to

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see how how over time the vegetation had

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had reacted to previous

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um disturbances in the ground to create

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stuff like this and in this case we're

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seeing three round circles and Heinz

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brought up an interesting point uh

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possible grain silos I think that's

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that's a decent possibility that we

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should consider because we don't have

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the answers they didn't have the answers

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when they were doing this episode will

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we receive those answers in the future I

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really do hope so because it is bizarre

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how they're in a line and it goes from

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Big to small but at the same time we do

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need to keep in mind Jimmy that these uh

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that this Ranch has had previous owners

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and before the Bigelow era it was owned

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ranchers can do whatever they want when

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they want so could they have been grain

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silos possibly or could it have been

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something a little more odd or something

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created even during the Bigelow era we

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don't know but it was something that was

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really interesting and then here is a

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bigger image

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of what he captured when going through

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the ranch again the dark is like dead

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grass while the yellowy oranges like the

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healthier grass it's the stuff that is

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not having any issues and the brighter

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the color the healthier the the

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and and that gives you an idea okay yeah

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this black and white image what what

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um go ahead and zoom in on on that

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section again does yeah you can stop

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um the the grain style or the silos idea

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there may be something completely

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mundane

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just totally normal but but what is

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strange to me is that nobody can see

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nobody knew this was there that's a

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great Point Jimmy you know it's it's not

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um uh you're walking around everybody on

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on a big field and you see a square

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that's where the barn used to be oh okay

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all right that we used to have a garage

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over here that's where our Silo you know

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and you would see that you see it you

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right they didn't it's not like

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um they have been walking around this

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property all of these guys have they

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know every inch of this property now

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everything's been photographed and

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circular areas and I agree with you it

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looks like five they focused on three

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but I see a continuous line I see I see

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these these five areas and you can't see

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it with the naked eye all right so it

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took Pete Kelsey to come in and and

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locate these areas then of course you

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have the coincidence again I hate using

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that word

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with uh Jay Stratton and Jay Stratton

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where he went wonky was at the edge of

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the big circle on the top

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so I again don't know and this is where

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Homestead 2 is and and and everything

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it's it's the whole thing is bizarre I I

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don't know what to make of it I don't

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know what it is but uh there you go and

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the fact that you can't see it nobody

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knew what was there that's the cool part

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okay now but but before we run out of

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time Christina we've got so much to talk

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about the the the the uh show us the

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four lines and and what uh or you know

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what

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number one but I'm gonna say this

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this better be man-made or we are

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dealing with Crazy Town

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well we're looking at straight lines

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that you can't see with the naked eye

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but you can see with the equipment but

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to Pete Kelsey's understanding it was

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going from perfectly from east to west

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and that was an aspect that was rather

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odd and it does look

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um it doesn't look natural it looks

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manufactured what happened well

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I wish they could have had the

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opportunity to speak with the Shermans

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or to get more people from the Bigelow

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era to potentially give them answers if

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they have an idea on what this is but

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the crazy thing about these particular

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lines and that really caught the team's

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attention is that they they told the

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rest of the team let's dig let's go down

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there and see what's going on and dragon

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he had his little one he says when they

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bring up jury digging I get a little

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nervous and and I totally get that so we

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got to see Drilling and digging in this

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episode two decently decent no-no's and

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we got to see both of them in one

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episode so that part was pretty awesome

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yeah and you had Brandon come in and say

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that I think it was two episode two

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seasons ago where he said there's one

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area we were told not to dig and this is

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that area

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who had the Bobcat was that was that was

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that Thomas it was Thomas yeah it was

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Thomas so Thomas man Bobcats are cool so

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we're all right he rolls up and they

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start digging and now I want everybody

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to understand this is this is what

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this is what is crazy about this again

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nobody saw

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this

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it's obviously not natural we know that

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you could you can look at that and see

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that

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but they had to dig down about

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five six feet

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and when they dug down uh five or six

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feet they found a layer of crystals

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crystallized Rock which I I still I'm

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not sure what is going on here but it's

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it's look at that right so they go down

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five or six feet deep and they see this

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line of stuff and and they pull it out

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and they start looking at it and some of

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it was like Crystal crystals I mean like

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uh

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when I say CR I'm talking about

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crystals right small but but crystal

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structure okay so they they find that

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then they find this strange Rock

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with uh with crystals in it

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and now this is what this is what I'm

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thinking now I could be wrong here I

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think that there may be something

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completely mundane I'm thinking maybe

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fertilizer or something that was used uh

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because maybe those were rows of

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of I don't know I'm gonna make something

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up okay don't quote me on the corn

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right strawberries blueberry bushes I

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don't know and maybe that was fertilizer

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and and and then and then they they

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plowed over that field later and and

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that's why it's so deep now I'm thinking

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of something mundane

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Travis Travis Taylor he goes right there

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looks like a circuit board looks like a

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giant circuit board we're seeing

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conductive materials there we've got uh

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you know we've got okay aluminum and and

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these are all conductive things maybe

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it's something that's active and he's

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right you know that we have to look at

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all of the other you got to go strange

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you got to think outside of the box here

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now are we looking at something like

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that now I think it's a big reach it's a

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tall reach but I I think anything is

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possible here

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um I don't know what it is is it

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something simple right is it fertilizer

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is it something that was used I

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I don't know but it looks it it looks

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man-made it doesn't look natural and I'm

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not sure what's going on I was I was

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completely shocked and again so were

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they because you can't see it right you

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can't see it while you're walking around

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Christina this is stuff that they're

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finding with technology

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that's uh we know something's going on

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what did you what did you think what

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went through your mind when you saw

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those East-West lines and and and it's

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crazy almost like a symbol

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it does kind of look like that let me go

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back to that image and those are those

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are the results and we'll get to that

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looking at this yeah you see three lines

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and then you see this kind of

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I wasn't really sure how you would

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describe it like a Chevron like okay a

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Chevron on its side it does kind it can

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look like a symbol but the aspect of you

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bringing up fertilizer when they were

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digging deep down

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uh I remember learning that in order to

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just like create an inch of soil it

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takes anywhere from a few decades to a

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few hundred years they were finding

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these these striations in the ground

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that were feet below that would be

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thousands of years worth of topsoil

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um so could it have been fertilizer I

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don't necessarily think so but the but

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the other possibilities of what that

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could have been was it something

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man-made something that shouldn't be

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there or was it something completely

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natural well they went ahead and they

429
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did some potential tests and they sent

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it over to the University of Utah but

431
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looking back at this symbol before I

432
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continue on with those stats is that it

433
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kind of looks like Roman numerals like a

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three and a five which equals you know

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eight so it'd be like you know one one

436
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one V right and I'm saying that in like

437
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very modern terms but that's an eight in

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Roman uh numerals and Roman remains from

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Pete Kelsey that he had mentioned when

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he was talking about the multi-spectral

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analyzer that they use that to find

442
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Roman ruins I found that if if we're on

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this idea and on this mindset that this

444
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could have been a Roman symbol right and

445
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for him to bring up the Romans that's a

446
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pretty odd coincidence if and only if

447
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what I'm thinking is potentially correct

448
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otherwise it's just too random here and

449
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causation does not equal correlation but

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going back to the stats what they found

451
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let me zoom out here what they found is

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this very similar to material to when

453
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they brought the straight shot Drillers

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in and they recede those little those

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little like shavings of metal I think

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was last season or two seasons ago where

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when they had given it to the Utah State

458
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University

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um that they had mentioned it was the

460
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same kind of material that Nasa uses on

461
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their spacecraft one it's like when it's

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re-entering the Earth's atmosphere and

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they found that again in the ground on

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this area where those quote Roman

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numerals uh that kind of symbol was so

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that was rather odd

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let's see here uh uh let's see hold on

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here here's a good comment Jimmy your

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details are vague guesstimating doesn't

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work for those of us who pay close

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I have no idea what that means

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um the I'm going to guesstimate this

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um so when when I say fertilizer

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okay uh which I'm assuming uh that's

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what uh this commenter is referring to

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we're looking at uh a ranch we're

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looking at rows

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and those are those are with with very

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unique things in the soil in the shape

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of the Rose so why would you do that you

481
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know going vague is saying something

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like circuit board you know that's a

483
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giant circuit board I'm I'm I I don't I

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think something was placed in in the

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soil to do something and that looks like

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rows of plants to me I mean that's

487
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that's and I'm entitled to that that's

488
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what that looks like that's that's to me

489
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all right now Stargate Chevron seven or

490
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whatever

491
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um uh it's a bit of a reach but um

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that's that's

493
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um uh I'm trying to think of something

494
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very very simple here let's go with

495
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Occam's razor if we if we think outside

496
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of the box and we should on this then

497
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let's get to the testing also

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um of of everything that was there

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having crystals down in the soil that

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has nothing to do with fertilizer what

501
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the heck were the crystals doing in in

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in in a straight line in a straight row

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or are the crystals found in between

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those rows and it's just happens to be

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where they dug straight down I don't

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know these things I I don't and neither

507
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do they

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um so we have the digging in the in the

509
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row now you also have to do with dig

510
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vertical

511
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right you would have to do a north-south

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dig and see what's in between there or

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you know we we've got to figure out what

514
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is creating uh the row itself so no I'm

515
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not being vague at all I'm not I'm not

516
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I've I I've got less of an idea of

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what's going on here than and than

518
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anybody else I'm just glad that they

519
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have the technology up there and they're

520
00:24:03,830 --> 00:23:57,960
trying to figure this stuff out

521
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we have this metal sphere in this field

522
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this is something that

523
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um they went back to uh today the more

524
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that I look at that photograph the image

525
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which is from if you can Christina pull

526
00:24:29,810 --> 00:24:26,580
that up that is from one frame of video

527
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from the trail cam and I've got to tell

528
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you uh out of everything that has been

529
00:24:36,770 --> 00:24:35,039
presented in all of the seasons so far

530
00:24:38,090 --> 00:24:36,780
and there's been a lot of crazy stuff

531
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going on

532
00:24:44,149 --> 00:24:41,340
this this this fear

533
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is perplexing to me

534
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and to have it just be in one frame you

535
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know and and I know that we've done some

536
00:24:55,850 --> 00:24:52,799
basic Research into this as 15 frames

537
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per second which is uh fairly typical

538
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and and and I'm okay with that

539
00:25:06,350 --> 00:25:03,600
15 photographs 15 images in one second

540
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right 15 frames per second

541
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only one of those frames in one

542
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fifteenth of a second nothing before

543
00:25:15,289 --> 00:25:13,500
nothing after nothing fading in and

544
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fading out

545
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um is this sphere

546
00:25:23,690 --> 00:25:19,980
and we've got to get to the bottom of

547
00:25:26,149 --> 00:25:23,700
that that that out of out of everything

548
00:25:28,010 --> 00:25:26,159
in Four Seasons I think that's that's

549
00:25:30,169 --> 00:25:28,020
some of the craziest evidence I have

550
00:25:31,610 --> 00:25:30,179
seen yet

551
00:25:33,230 --> 00:25:31,620
I think that's a good point I think my

552
00:25:36,110 --> 00:25:33,240
favorite aspect was I think in last

553
00:25:38,269 --> 00:25:36,120
season where they saw what they believed

554
00:25:39,890 --> 00:25:38,279
to be a wormhole it's just like in the

555
00:25:42,230 --> 00:25:39,900
sky that was awesome but I definitely

556
00:25:45,350 --> 00:25:42,240
try to look at everything on these shows

557
00:25:47,930 --> 00:25:45,360
from a symbolic sense a mystical sense

558
00:25:49,430 --> 00:25:47,940
and uh and a scientific sense as well I

559
00:25:51,890 --> 00:25:49,440
mean because really all the stuff

560
00:25:54,230 --> 00:25:51,900
happening there it crosses all of these

561
00:25:57,769 --> 00:25:54,240
perspectives right there's a convergence

562
00:26:01,250 --> 00:25:57,779
of literally every Arcane mystery there

563
00:26:03,409 --> 00:26:01,260
what is the common thread in this as Tom

564
00:26:06,769 --> 00:26:03,419
and Candace told me in an interview that

565
00:26:10,669 --> 00:26:06,779
I had with them the mystery is below on

566
00:26:12,350 --> 00:26:10,679
the ground and above and that really

567
00:26:14,990 --> 00:26:12,360
caught a lot of people's attention

568
00:26:17,029 --> 00:26:15,000
including myself why would they mention

569
00:26:19,490 --> 00:26:17,039
all of those different things why not

570
00:26:25,210 --> 00:26:19,500
just say the mystery is there

571
00:26:28,130 --> 00:26:25,220
yeah and the uh the aspect of this that

572
00:26:30,350 --> 00:26:28,140
uh Pete Kelsey when I had him on the

573
00:26:33,350 --> 00:26:30,360
show last week

574
00:26:36,890 --> 00:26:33,360
um I uh you know trying to go to I'm

575
00:26:39,430 --> 00:26:36,900
going E.T all right everybody I'm going

576
00:26:43,510 --> 00:26:39,440
ET here not going

577
00:26:48,590 --> 00:26:43,520
indigenous spirituality legless

578
00:26:51,710 --> 00:26:48,600
red-eyed glowing dog skin walker that no

579
00:26:53,230 --> 00:26:51,720
I'm not going there I'm going E.T I

580
00:26:56,870 --> 00:26:53,240
think something

581
00:27:00,110 --> 00:26:56,880
uh is is

582
00:27:04,730 --> 00:27:00,120
um under that Mesa I'm thinking it's E.T

583
00:27:07,430 --> 00:27:04,740
I think it's still emitting signals and

584
00:27:10,210 --> 00:27:07,440
it is something that is interfering with

585
00:27:13,370 --> 00:27:10,220
our own mundane

586
00:27:17,750 --> 00:27:13,380
backwards technology here you know we

587
00:27:20,630 --> 00:27:17,760
still literally use matches right that

588
00:27:23,630 --> 00:27:20,640
that's where we are today we that's

589
00:27:26,330 --> 00:27:23,640
that's our level of Technology but if

590
00:27:28,130 --> 00:27:26,340
something came to this planet landed

591
00:27:32,990 --> 00:27:28,140
there maybe they had engine problems

592
00:27:34,970 --> 00:27:33,000
maybe they had to call uh AAA somebody

593
00:27:36,590 --> 00:27:34,980
came and picked them up and left and

594
00:27:39,409 --> 00:27:36,600
they left the ship here and they just

595
00:27:44,149 --> 00:27:39,419
never came back and then over the years

596
00:27:46,789 --> 00:27:44,159
100 million years it it's been covered

597
00:27:48,350 --> 00:27:46,799
in debris and rocks and it's now uh

598
00:27:50,570 --> 00:27:48,360
appears to be amazing but there's

599
00:27:53,810 --> 00:27:50,580
something underneath it I'm okay with

600
00:27:56,210 --> 00:27:53,820
that and when I had Pete Kelsey on the

601
00:27:57,950 --> 00:27:56,220
show last week and I asked him directly

602
00:27:59,810 --> 00:27:57,960
would you be surprised he's like no I

603
00:28:02,149 --> 00:27:59,820
wouldn't man that's a strange Place

604
00:28:04,310 --> 00:28:02,159
everything is crazy everything is nuts

605
00:28:08,450 --> 00:28:04,320
everything you get there and the second

606
00:28:10,610 --> 00:28:08,460
you set foot everything goes wrong your

607
00:28:13,610 --> 00:28:10,620
your perception of the world changes

608
00:28:16,850 --> 00:28:13,620
when you're there and I went in as a

609
00:28:18,830 --> 00:28:16,860
skeptic and and now I I know I don't

610
00:28:21,110 --> 00:28:18,840
know what's going on but something is

611
00:28:23,870 --> 00:28:21,120
strange about Skinwalker Ranch I think

612
00:28:28,730 --> 00:28:23,880
it revolves around that Mesa that shape

613
00:28:33,169 --> 00:28:28,740
is there and I I'm going E.T I'm going

614
00:28:34,330 --> 00:28:33,179
I'm I'm going E.T I I really do I I

615
00:28:40,250 --> 00:28:34,340
don't

616
00:28:43,250 --> 00:28:40,260
uh it's I think that history Christina

617
00:28:46,610 --> 00:28:43,260
I think that history is going to look

618
00:28:47,510 --> 00:28:46,620
back at all of this within understanding

619
00:28:49,789 --> 00:28:47,520
that

620
00:28:53,750 --> 00:28:49,799
ET has been visiting this planet and

621
00:28:56,810 --> 00:28:53,760
other planets for billions of years and

622
00:28:59,870 --> 00:28:56,820
we're just one example of that I think

623
00:29:01,850 --> 00:28:59,880
that's the right side of History all

624
00:29:05,930 --> 00:29:01,860
right I think history is just going to

625
00:29:08,810 --> 00:29:05,940
prove that that is the case eventually

626
00:29:12,289 --> 00:29:08,820
we're going to move forward and and and

627
00:29:15,769 --> 00:29:12,299
and and have the experiences of of of

628
00:29:17,690 --> 00:29:15,779
the rest of the universe but but right

629
00:29:20,210 --> 00:29:17,700
now the things that we don't understand

630
00:29:23,029 --> 00:29:20,220
and we can't ramp our head around and we

631
00:29:24,830 --> 00:29:23,039
don't have the right words to use for

632
00:29:29,389 --> 00:29:24,840
things like this

633
00:29:31,370 --> 00:29:29,399
um I'm going with I think that a craft

634
00:29:33,409 --> 00:29:31,380
underneath that Mesa that's been there

635
00:29:36,110 --> 00:29:33,419
for 100 million years that's my guess

636
00:29:37,909 --> 00:29:36,120
I'm I'm going interdimensional at my

637
00:29:40,850 --> 00:29:37,919
guess I think it's a portal that has

638
00:29:44,029 --> 00:29:40,860
been there for a very very long time and

639
00:29:46,430 --> 00:29:44,039
the and the the the conduit is allowing

640
00:29:48,830 --> 00:29:46,440
stuff to come in and leave is it

641
00:29:51,110 --> 00:29:48,840
naturally occurring was it put there in

642
00:29:53,029 --> 00:29:51,120
prehistoric times who knows who knows

643
00:29:56,450 --> 00:29:53,039
Jimmy but for me an interdimensional

644
00:29:59,570 --> 00:29:56,460
space-time portal seems the best Fringe

645
00:30:02,330 --> 00:29:59,580
explanation and that's where I would lay

646
00:30:04,690 --> 00:30:02,340
my money even a type 2 civilization we

647
00:30:07,310 --> 00:30:04,700
can assume right would would use

648
00:30:11,029 --> 00:30:07,320
interdimensional portals so-called

649
00:30:14,690 --> 00:30:11,039
hyperspace for Interstellar travel and

650
00:30:16,310 --> 00:30:14,700
maybe just maybe it's a junction point

651
00:30:20,810 --> 00:30:16,320
could be

652
00:30:23,090 --> 00:30:20,820
can tell you that I don't think it's a

653
00:30:26,810 --> 00:30:23,100
natural formation you know we can get

654
00:30:29,090 --> 00:30:26,820
back into radio frequencies and and the

655
00:30:34,310 --> 00:30:29,100
the the electronic stuff that that goes

656
00:30:37,430 --> 00:30:34,320
to have GPS and time uh get messed with

657
00:30:40,130 --> 00:30:37,440
um on those Acres uh the 500 acres are

658
00:30:42,289 --> 00:30:40,140
it's a very strange thing you know we

659
00:30:44,510 --> 00:30:42,299
don't hear about this anywhere else on

660
00:30:47,269 --> 00:30:44,520
Earth you know what could be causing

661
00:30:49,430 --> 00:30:47,279
that I don't know what it is but I just

662
00:30:51,529 --> 00:30:49,440
don't think it's natural I think we

663
00:30:53,389 --> 00:30:51,539
would have other reports

664
00:30:55,070 --> 00:30:53,399
you know I was talking to Pete Kelsey

665
00:30:58,190 --> 00:30:55,080
about this last week

666
00:31:03,590 --> 00:30:58,200
if if GPS

667
00:31:05,389 --> 00:31:03,600
was wonky in in Chicago or New York like

668
00:31:08,389 --> 00:31:05,399
it is in

669
00:31:12,470 --> 00:31:08,399
in Skinwalker can you imagine the car

670
00:31:15,049 --> 00:31:12,480
accidents the delays the the problems

671
00:31:19,490 --> 00:31:15,059
with airplanes and trains and and and

672
00:31:20,630 --> 00:31:19,500
your car your cell phones we would hear

673
00:31:23,649 --> 00:31:20,640
about it

674
00:31:27,049 --> 00:31:23,659
wait don't don't don't go to New York

675
00:31:31,310 --> 00:31:27,059
right don't use your cell phone don't

676
00:31:34,310 --> 00:31:31,320
don't fly into New York don't use GPS in

677
00:31:37,750 --> 00:31:34,320
a car in New York you can't it's gonna

678
00:31:41,450 --> 00:31:37,760
put you a quarter mile underground and

679
00:31:44,389 --> 00:31:41,460
think about that that's crazy

680
00:31:46,490 --> 00:31:44,399
so I I don't know I just don't think

681
00:31:48,350 --> 00:31:46,500
it's natural and if it was we would be

682
00:31:50,930 --> 00:31:48,360
hearing about it in other locations

683
00:31:53,029 --> 00:31:50,940
around the world I would I would like to

684
00:31:55,669 --> 00:31:53,039
think that's the case but a portal and

685
00:31:57,590 --> 00:31:55,679
an entity coming out from it was

686
00:32:00,889 --> 00:31:57,600
observed during the Bigelow era and

687
00:32:03,649 --> 00:32:00,899
suspected portals in the in the air

688
00:32:06,049 --> 00:32:03,659
during the fugle era as well so it's

689
00:32:08,090 --> 00:32:06,059
it's a repetitive theme that for those

690
00:32:10,130 --> 00:32:08,100
that have visited and researched the

691
00:32:12,529 --> 00:32:10,140
location they are speculating that

692
00:32:14,810 --> 00:32:12,539
portals are a possibility and so that's

693
00:32:17,870 --> 00:32:14,820
where my mind goes I mean also as you

694
00:32:20,810 --> 00:32:17,880
know Jimmy I love portals I love the

695
00:32:23,330 --> 00:32:20,820
conversation of portals so that just

696
00:32:25,130 --> 00:32:23,340
that aspect it makes it that much more

697
00:32:27,230 --> 00:32:25,140
interesting when it comes to Skinwalker

698
00:32:32,630 --> 00:32:27,240
Ranch let me pop this up before we go

699
00:32:35,690 --> 00:32:32,640
Brian I actually had that thought

700
00:32:39,049 --> 00:32:35,700
he says the lines are skid marks when it

701
00:32:44,570 --> 00:32:41,690
I act in my head thank you for that

702
00:32:47,269 --> 00:32:44,580
Brian uh I love how the universe works

703
00:32:49,610 --> 00:32:47,279
uh we share we were entangled on that

704
00:32:50,990 --> 00:32:49,620
thought I actually I thought man it's

705
00:32:53,389 --> 00:32:51,000
kind of Deep

706
00:32:57,409 --> 00:32:53,399
all right it's kind of neat uh for for

707
00:32:59,570 --> 00:32:57,419
if that is what is uh if that is what is

708
00:33:01,970 --> 00:32:59,580
causing this anomaly in the measurements

709
00:33:05,210 --> 00:33:01,980
right in the sensor data

710
00:33:09,230 --> 00:33:05,220
um but I thought man it looks like

711
00:33:11,330 --> 00:33:09,240
like Landing marks it does but I I

712
00:33:14,450 --> 00:33:11,340
thought I thought about that and and and

713
00:33:16,370 --> 00:33:14,460
and one other thing I'm sorry Christina

714
00:33:19,430 --> 00:33:16,380
and I know we're running late and and

715
00:33:20,450 --> 00:33:19,440
things and my goodness we've got stuff

716
00:33:22,490 --> 00:33:20,460
to do

717
00:33:26,330 --> 00:33:22,500
um after this broadcast

718
00:33:32,810 --> 00:33:29,810
Ed an airport from above

719
00:33:35,509 --> 00:33:32,820
right and you see the access runways and

720
00:33:37,669 --> 00:33:35,519
you see the Angles and you see that or

721
00:33:39,830 --> 00:33:37,679
the shape of an aircraft carrier from

722
00:33:44,090 --> 00:33:39,840
above they've always got a weird you

723
00:33:48,409 --> 00:33:44,100
know that that bottom Chevron thing down

724
00:33:50,149 --> 00:33:48,419
at the bottom kind of looks like

725
00:33:53,029 --> 00:33:50,159
say it

726
00:33:55,130 --> 00:33:53,039
looks like a an airport

727
00:33:57,950 --> 00:33:55,140
Airport runway

728
00:34:00,830 --> 00:33:57,960
I I'm just

729
00:34:03,889 --> 00:34:00,840
and I'm okay I'm okay with going woo I'm

730
00:34:05,930 --> 00:34:03,899
going full woo well Dr Taylor said in an

731
00:34:08,210 --> 00:34:05,940
interview that I did with him that time

732
00:34:10,790 --> 00:34:08,220
is at the center of the mystery

733
00:34:14,389 --> 00:34:10,800
space-time anomalies keep being referred

734
00:34:16,849 --> 00:34:14,399
to as being a source and I think that as

735
00:34:21,290 --> 00:34:16,859
these episodes progress for many people

736
00:34:21,970 --> 00:34:21,300
can begin to to see uh the the get a

737
00:34:24,770 --> 00:34:21,980
better

738
00:34:27,470 --> 00:34:24,780
understanding of that hypothesis or that

739
00:34:29,629 --> 00:34:27,480
theory that that could potentially be a

740
00:34:31,669 --> 00:34:29,639
possibility and if that were the case

741
00:34:33,470 --> 00:34:31,679
everyone would want to get their hands

742
00:34:37,129 --> 00:34:33,480
on that technology because that would be

743
00:34:39,409 --> 00:34:37,139
world changing Jimmy but thank you so

744
00:34:41,270 --> 00:34:39,419
much for doing this review with me and

745
00:34:43,730 --> 00:34:41,280
for me doing it with you on your channel

746
00:34:45,829 --> 00:34:43,740
as well I I think overall it was a great

747
00:34:48,829 --> 00:34:45,839
episode and leading for future

748
00:34:51,109 --> 00:34:48,839
anticipation on what the next episodes

749
00:34:53,389 --> 00:34:51,119
hold

750
00:34:58,730 --> 00:34:53,399
have no idea

751
00:35:02,510 --> 00:34:58,740
I don't I don't next week the the top of

752
00:35:04,910 --> 00:35:02,520
top of the Mesa I think that's key

753
00:35:08,270 --> 00:35:04,920
and then that's key I don't think 40

754
00:35:10,550 --> 00:35:08,280
feet is is far enough that's to the edge

755
00:35:14,510 --> 00:35:10,560
of the dome right

756
00:35:16,130 --> 00:35:14,520
um the anomaly that is vertical

757
00:35:18,410 --> 00:35:16,140
um that it's there that appears to be in

758
00:35:20,230 --> 00:35:18,420
the center of the Mesa uh are they going

759
00:35:23,270 --> 00:35:20,240
to tap into that do they have to go into

760
00:35:25,490 --> 00:35:23,280
do they have to go further

761
00:35:27,050 --> 00:35:25,500
um what happened with the uh the

762
00:35:29,750 --> 00:35:27,060
horizontal drilling

763
00:35:32,030 --> 00:35:29,760
right so what happened with that did

764
00:35:33,710 --> 00:35:32,040
they just give up on that

765
00:35:35,690 --> 00:35:33,720
um what happened to the moving of the

766
00:35:38,569 --> 00:35:35,700
boulders they were going to do all of

767
00:35:41,390 --> 00:35:38,579
that and and what was found so there's a

768
00:35:43,550 --> 00:35:41,400
lot of stuff to wrap up uh yet in this

769
00:35:45,950 --> 00:35:43,560
season so there you go thank you

770
00:35:48,230 --> 00:35:45,960
Christina you're the best tonight I'm

771
00:35:52,730 --> 00:35:48,240
doing Men In Black on Fade to Black so

772
00:35:55,510 --> 00:35:52,740
Justin uh Bamford is with me and I will

773
00:35:59,510 --> 00:35:55,520
see everybody tonight on Fade to Black

774
00:36:01,670 --> 00:35:59,520
fantastic and there were 74 votes on

775
00:36:05,150 --> 00:36:01,680
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776
00:36:09,050 --> 00:36:05,160
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777
00:36:12,410 --> 00:36:09,060
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778
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said not the best and one percent said

779
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784
00:36:26,930 --> 00:36:25,200
that is it for today Jimmy thank you